hey so if Cas becomes human, he doesn’t belong to the empty anymore, right? So, uh…… isn’t that a solution?
YES. YES IT IS.
Here’s the thing though, an angel is never really human, are they?
I mean even with Anna who fell and lived life from birth as a “human” heard angel radio and was able to accept her grace back and become an angel again. A normal human can’t take someone’s grace and become human. Lily Sunder is the closest we have to that and it was magic. So The Empty has a claim on any angelic and demonic lives, don’t they?
I saw (skimmed cause I was at work) the meta on this and now can’t credit the person who I saw it from. Meta folks please help and maybe link the post?
@mittensmorgul @postmodernmulticoloredcloak ummm…. others that I can’t think to tag right now because I had to have a drink for that episode.It’s likely that it doesn’t matter to the Empty. It wanted Jack because it was a nephilim, even if it was currently just equipped with his human soul. So once an angel always an angel, I suppose?
Heck I have written a boatload on angel grace, human souls, and the differences and similarities. My tags are “on the nature of angel grace” and “angels and souls.” (I’d link the tags, but tumblr… just search for those phrases on my blog)
I have long essays on what an angel is without grace, and the slim difference between angel grace and a human soul. If I had time to find the specific posts that deal with this, I would, but I’m super overwhelmed at the moment. hmu in a couple days if you need me to expand on this…
But an angel without grace (ie the power pack we call mojo, that does the magic stuff), is essentially a human soul. Not only demonstrated by Anna being born human (and humans are born with supernatural abilities, like psychics, natural witches, etc., and there probably are humans who can pick up on angel radio, or at least it’s not outside the realm of possibility), but also demonstrated by Cas repeatedly identifying himself as human when his grace was removed. Not to mention Jack referring to himself as purely human when his grace was removed.
When Cas was fully human, he wasn’t waiting for his grace to replenish, like he was telling Jack might happen to him. Because ALL of Cas’s grace was gone. There was no grace left to replenish, you know?
But the Empty might have other ideas regardless of Cas is angel or human, just like Billie believed she could send Dean and Sam to the empty. It could be that Cas cutting out his grace to satisfy the Empty’s deal could work, but maybe not.
We await more canon.

















